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From: Brian Hutchinson via RAUC <rauc@pengutronix.de>
To: "Jan Lübbe" <jlu@pengutronix.de>
Cc: rauc@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [RAUC] Is it possible to change the [system]compatible= string after it has already been set/flashed?
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 15:46:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFZh4h-hXiXMqSGQKP-NA-PnDo_MgBC-4rqqkkZq5SHgSGh8Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFZh4h81NBRDsN=f7nuoU=dXQESG_uaH-PDtf-1RhbAk=RkwTA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:04 AM Brian Hutchinson <b.hutchman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Jan,
>
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 10:52 AM Jan Lübbe <jlu@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 10:38 -0500, Brian Hutchinson via RAUC wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 3:43 AM Jan Lübbe <jlu@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2024-12-05 at 22:38 -0500, Brian Hutchinson via RAUC wrote:
> > > > > This almost feels like the intermediate update that's necessary with
> > > > > changing rauc versions ...
> > > >
> > > > Enrico pointed me to this part.
> > > >
> > > > Updating RAUC versions normally does *not* require an intermediate
> > > > update. An intermediate update is only needed if you explicitly create
> > > > bundles which use new features:
> > > > https://rauc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/basic.html#forward-and-backward-compatibility
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > I should probably start another thread, but now I'm running into a
> > > chicken & egg problem.
> > >
> > > I need to add downgrade protection due to newer hardware
> >
> > Just to clarify: You want to prevent installation of an old bundle on the new
> > hardware, as the old software would not work on the new hardware?
>
> Yes, but not based on version alone, version and some hardware checks.
>
> >
> > > and I
> > > discovered pre-install handler doesn't have access to bundle version
> > > (RAUC_MF_VERSION), only a hook has that environment variable.  Well,
> > > if I create a hook that can compare bundle version to current version
> > > to do some hardware checks ... that hook won't be in older bundles, so
> > > wondering how pre-install handler (which lives in the current version
> > > file system) can figure out the bundle version attempting to be
> > > installed if it can't see RAUC_MF_VERSION to implement downgrade
> > > protection if that makes any sense.
> >
> > Take a look at the "min-bundle-version" option in the system.conf:
> > https://rauc.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference.html#system-section
> >
> > You'd set that in the factory image of your new hardware. That way, old bundles
> > cannot be installed.
>
> Yeah, looked at that and won't help me.  If pre-install handler can
> get to the bundle version attempting to be installed I'd be ok.
> Currently looking at RAUC_META_.  Looks like pre-install hook can
> access the bundle manifest.
>
> So I might allow a downgrade if the hardware is compatible, but if the
> hardware is not compatible then I have to deny the downgrade.  So it's
> got to be pre-install handler since that lives in current version
> rootfs ... but I need to figure out how to access the version of
> bundle attempting to be installed.  That's where I'm stuck.

I made my pre-install handler get the rauc bundle version thru brute
force using $RAUC_BUNDLE_MOUNT_POINT/manifest.raucm.

If there's a more elegant way for a handler to get the bundle version
from bundle manifest, please let me know so I'm not a bull in a china
shop ;).

Regards,

Brian



      reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-06  3:38 Brian Hutchinson via RAUC
2024-12-06  9:25 ` Jan Lübbe via RAUC
2024-12-09  8:43 ` Jan Lübbe via RAUC
2025-01-14 15:38   ` Brian Hutchinson via RAUC
2025-01-14 15:52     ` Jan Lübbe via RAUC
2025-01-14 16:04       ` Brian Hutchinson via RAUC
2025-01-14 20:46         ` Brian Hutchinson via RAUC [this message]

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